Speaking at the Republican National Convention last night, Paul Ryan again took the opportunity to lie about President Obama's record on the auto industry, blaming the closure of a GM plant in Janesville on the President. "Obama said: "I believe that if our government is there to support you … this plant will be here for another hundred years." That's what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that plant didn't last another year," Ryan said, quoting the President.
Congressman Ryan is correct on one thing. The plant didn't last another year. In fact, it closed in December of 2008, before President Obama had even been inaugurated, on the Bush economy. Watch it.
Medicare for everyone would help business in America compete on a global market.........it would be good for small business & the middle class..........it would be good for all of America.
Buggzee
8/31/2012 12:07:00 PM
Could barely get through the speeches with their pernicious rhetoric....and especially the incessant throat-clearing of Paul Ryan sounding like there was a grunting hog under the podium, almost made me leap up & run from the room ssssscreaming! ....but get through it I did....until my mind almost glazed over, just have heard it all repeated relentlessly.
Mitt-lette says (as all Repubs do in their lock-step fashion) that he doesn't pay attention to polls, but the saccharine sweet goings on, by all, about women, moms, etc. kind of tips their hand. His Blinkiness then goes on to tell us all about his struggle in starting his business.."...to 'help' other businesses...". Would love to see the much longer list of the companies he vulturized......one up in Freeport IL right now, Sensata, is begging for his help & influence to save their co. and jobs.
This convention was a huge PHONY FEST!
Ron Mariposa
Right before my husband left the room to go outside to listen to the coyotes yipping (clean relief from the lies and hyperbole) he mentioned the lack of minorities in the audience. When Ms. Rice spoke the camera (NBC) would find and focus on a black person in the audience- almost all three of them!......same with Rubio, the camera would search out an Hispanic person.....also a very few. I exaggerate to make a point, but just barely.
sandy
8/31/2012 8:50:41 AM
Rex, if we had a single payer system like Medicare for all, companies wouldn't be forced into providing health insurance. This would at least be an incentive to stay here, but after years of outsourcing jobs, the lure of extremely cheap labor and no regulations is going to destroy us. The problem is that everything in the US is based on a profit motive, so much so that we're being told that raising taxes is evil.
Ryan was part of the group that swore to do everything to keep Obama from succeeding. How can anyone trust this man? Romney will be the VP as Ryan and the tea baggers will take over all "entitlement" programs and social issues.
John, Los Angeles
8/30/2012 11:32:04 PM
Paul Ryan's biggest lie, to me, is when he looked into the camera and said to the effect that we have to be our brother's keeper. This from a guy whose biggest hero was Ayn Rand who said selfishness was the highest virtue. She denounced being "our brother's keeper." Ryan once told a crowd of Randites that he makes all new employees and interns in his office read "Atlas Shrugged," Ayn Rands novel which espouses her philosophy of selfishness. This guy is worse than being a liar; he's a lying hypocrite. Ryan's budget of taking from the poor and giving to the rich only makes sense if you know his philosophy is based on selfishness.
Rex, Moorhead
8/30/2012 3:43:07 PM
I posted this on 30 August, 2012 on the MSNBC "Lean Forward Blog" under "Maddow, Schultz, call out Scott Walker on auto bailout." Please note that I am quoting from two articles one from the NY Times written by Mitt Romney and another from Charles Hughes Smith of the Daily Finance. So look for quote marks because italicized print does not work here.
Here is a quote from none other than Mitt Romney in his essay in the NY Times "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt." from November, 2008. Read these two paragraphs and pay close attention to Mr. Romney's explanation of a $2,000 extra per car cost that American automobile manufacturers have to pay per car:
"First, their huge disadvantage in costs relative to foreign brands must be eliminated. That means new labor agreements to align pay and benefits to match those of workers at competitors like BMW, Honda, Nissan and Toyota. Furthermore, retiree benefits must be reduced so that the total burden per auto for domestic makers is not higher than that of foreign producers.
That extra burden is estimated to be more than $2,000 per car. Think what that means: Ford, for example, needs to cut $2,000 worth of features and quality out of its Taurus to compete with Toyota’s Avalon. Of course the Avalon feels like a better product — it has $2,000 more put into it. Considering this disadvantage, Detroit has done a remarkable job of designing and engineering its cars. But if this cost penalty persists, any bailout will only delay the inevitable."
Source: Mitt Romney. 2008. "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt." New York Times. "..//www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html"
Please pay very close attention to that $2,000 cost per vehicle figure that Governor Romney quoted because it is of critical importance to understanding why the Janesville, Wisconsin plant had to be closed. It is because of our health care costs. Look at this quote from an article written by Charles Hugh Smith for the Daily Finance:
"It's no secret that the U.S. outspends other countries on health care. Health insurance alone, including premiums and employee contributions, averaged $12,680 per family in 2008, according to the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation, a respected health-care nonprofit. Overall, the U.S. spent 17.6% of its gross domestic product on health care in 2009, more than double the percentages spent by Japan, Britain, Spain, Italy or Australia.
But health-care costs are far more than just a health issue; they're also an economic problem. The skyrocketing bill for health care, including both public and private expenses, is reducing America's competitiveness as a global producer of goods and services.
Want proof? Take General Motors. Health-care costs added between $1,500 and $2,000 to the sticker price of every GM automobile, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), noted in a recent report called "Healthcare Costs and U.S. Competitiveness." Even back in 2005, a GM vehicle's price tag included more health care than steel."
Source: Charles Hugh Smith. March, 2010. "Skyrocketing Health care Costs Hamper U.S. Competitiveness. Daily Finance. "...//www.dailyfinance.com/2010/03/18/skyrocketing-health-care-costs-hamper-u-s-competitiveness/"
The Janesville, Wisconsin GM plant closed because America's health care system is making us uncompetitive in the global economy of the 21st century. The average cost for family health care policy was $12,680 with the U.S. spending nearly 18% GDP on health care. This cost is more than double what our competitors in Western Europe and Japan have to pay for health care. Mitt Romney has just made the perfect argument for a Medicare for all public option.
ron mariposa
8/30/2012 3:03:55 PM
Mr. Fargo did you see the story on facebook from the I will vote obama. It has stories by a lot of different people on the lies he told yesterday. The media is calling the gop/tea baggers out for their lies. It is about time they do this and even foxies news have people who are now questioning these guys. I bet many who go against the foxie news will be looking for jobs soon. Ryan is a big government spender and had no problems voting for debt and raising the debt limit under bushy.... He dosent give a damn about the people he said he would repersent and didnt do a thing to get GM to keep the plant open... The entire gop=tea bagger group that are running any office will lie, steal the vote, and step on their own to gain power...
Mr. Fargo
8/30/2012 2:02:47 PM
Finally...........Paul Ryan is being called out as a LIAR without any sugar coating or wordsmithing.........it is what it is so why not just say it like it is...........just be direct & to the point..........Paul Ryan is a Liar...........the entire Romney/Ryan campaign is based on lies........their entire foundation is to LIE............finally the unwritten rule to describe a liar in a delicate way is in the rear view mirror.........
Mr. Fargo
8/30/2012 1:56:15 PM
Where was the Paul Ryan Republican Plan during the Bush Administration to save the Gainesville auto factories & jobs? Did Paul Ryan even have it on his radar? Did he care? Did he introduce any legislation to save jobs?
Mr. Fargo
8/30/2012 1:20:46 PM
This main point has been lost in the conversation about Paul Ryan: What did Paul Ryan do to protect the auto jobs & manufacturing in his own backyard? The closings happened on his watch. Does he have any responsibility to the worker? He acts as if he wasn't there & it wasn't his back yard.
Mr. Fargo
8/30/2012 12:13:43 PM
Paul Ryan has a history of being a Liar............his entire career has been to go out and lie, then lie again, then lie some more.............
